Ryan...have you been smoking crack?





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all i said in my previous post - was that penky , ok he didnt have his best game for fax , but when fax gave a sloppy try away he ranted at his teammates because he cares - he will win more games then he loses.i say it again , keep him at 9 get him involved more , rotate him with gleason , and keep govin at 6.

In the first half I thought our defence was outstanding. Albeit we kept putting ourselves under pressure but at one point we kept you out for around 7 sets without getting out of our own half. It's a lot easier to start throwing a ball around when losing 46-14 with 20 minutes left with nothing to lose and that's all Fax did and were close to stealing it late on.



I don't get why your team keep putting themselves under pressure with stupid kick offs. Ok you get some of them back but not all of them and when you were opening up as easily as you did today surely it makes more sense to get the team down the other end of the field. Especially at 0-0. Fax did the same at Whitehaven when 24-0 up after half time put a kick in which never went 10 and changed the game.

Exactly!...its pointless and brainless....if we played the basics we would be ok.

Bang on. A good kick off gives your forwards chance to get their early hits in and set the tone.



short kick offs are desparation tactics!



MC not a forward!

Worked fantastic at the start of the season. I like the tactic. Give's us a chance to get the ball IF IMPLEMENTED RIGHT, and if he don't come off we've traded 10 yards ... big deal.

diagree, its important for the forwards to get the changing room adrenalin out, where better then the opponents 25.





we get the ball back on our forty worse case (normally).

I'm sure the short kick off tactic worked, even against cas in the CC. The fact we rarely use it now, or should I say not use it the same way as before (ie Haley jumping like a jumpy thing) might explain our drain of confidence.

'Haven scored the most fluckiest try from a long kick off.

They're the best resart, especially when your fired up.



short kicks for panic points or if your pack is getting creamed.

Anyway they will expect them now so definately go long now.

Agree totally. I cant understand why we have gone away from this tactic when it works so well. Think we got to every short kick off barring 1 yesterday and it was only he fact that other players wernt alert that we didnt come up with the ball more. Even the one where Haven took it cleanly they still ended up where they would of if we had kicked it deep due to the pressure from the Fax defenders.



If it aint broke.........

I also like the short kick off, didnt our come back yesterday start from a short kick off?

Our first try of the game came from a short kick off. The only time you went long you got the ball back and the other one hit the post.



Take the kick off from the start of the game. We get the ball on our own 40 rather than ingoal. Edmondson busts a tackle we're now on your 30, put an attacking kick in and force a drop out. Score from the next set. If you'd kicked the ball long, we'd have went 5 drives and a long kick. The first try of the game could've made a big difference. It's not really about using the short kick off it's about using it at the correct time and possibly giving the opposition a little bit more respect.