Not pleasure at all , however just pretending something didn't happen doesn't mean it didn't , but if enough people pretend it didn't happen , nobody will learn from it and they will make the same mistakes again , and again , and again



What is sad is how people like yourself are willing to act stupid to protect the people supposed to be running our sport

Or maybe your paranoia is just that. Maybe ignoring the facts and what we know to be true isnt the best way to come to the right outcome like you are!



You have basically admitted you are ignoring what we know to be true because it doesnt fit your image of the RFL and club, and its sad.

It would seem you are outvoted , he asked questions of tb's post that correctly challenged it , you havent answered them , neither has tb we notice , Just as he hasn't answered mine

What is sad is that Crusaders were given a much coveted,some may say ill deserved, 3 year SL licence and failed miserably just one third of the way through it.Thats the sad thing.

No, you were prevaricating again.



You couldn’t give a simple yes or no, because that would prove my point, so you try something cryptic that could mean anything.



Pathetic, just pathetic.

You dont know the truth any more than anybody else , just as you didn't know anything about the Celtic Crusaders except what you had read on here and in the press , none of what you thought you knew about them was from any kind of personal experience , open your eyes



You are assuming that the RFL dont tell lies

No No No No No , you dont understand . , it was just all a mistake , it was all planned that way from the start , it's just when the licence announcements were made somebody lost a full page of the press release , on it it stated that after one season they would re locate to north Wales .



It was all just a clerical error

Because they are quite clearly irrelevant,



the double standard highlighted by TB isnt answered by a completely different comparison.

Correct, it is a terrible shame



You would hope the RL community would rally round them, unfortunately the opposite has been true in a lot of cases

WTF



there isnt a yes or no answer to this question.



and the statement



[iThis is completely different[/i would only be cryptic to someone who didnt speak English.



Im really not sure how you expect me to clarify it any further.



It is different. It isnt the same. Your comparison is irrelevant to the point made. What you compared didnt address the point. Your Comparison was different to the point made.



Cryptic, Honestly, there is nothing cryptic about it

Your right, i have never professed to. I have simply refrained from making random accusations and pretending they are true like you have



yes, in absence of evidence to the contrary i havent decided to make things up. You should try it some time, you will probably find losing your ridiculous level of cynicism liberating

No, tb’s analogy was completely false.



The issue is not just about businessmen and cash. But, for the RFL, that’s all it does seem to be about if you are an expansion club.



Tb’s post totally, and deliberately, ignored the fundamental, and very important, differences between the two clubs. Without this, his point is worthless - As was yours.



Once I filled in some of the gaps for him it became impossible to sustain as an argument, without the sort of prevarication and evasion that came along in your post.



Of course the merits of the two clubs involved in a licence bid are relevant. That’s what the criteria are supposed to cover.



You’re a fine one to be accusing people of double standards.