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| Something few people seem to mention is that the system gives 3 years.
Therefore the assessment is surely on the state of the club at the next assessment. Thus comments like "throw em out and get XXXX in" are totally pointless. That shouldnt happen.
IF the Wrexham move is a success then they have come good. Although I think the chances of that are slimmer than slim!! BUT, what if it turns out to be a bridge? What I mean is, Crusaders do a stint in Wrexham to bridge the financial turmoil and the good foundation work continues at South Wales. If then the structure is right, should they merge to apply for a new license?
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| Quote tb="tb"While we're at it then

If you can find my posts going back to 2005, I always expressed doubt as to whether Crusaders' plan of going from NL2 to SL in 3 years was sustainable – it was at best ambitious and possibly over ambitious. And the tragedy at Widnes was undoubtedly a distinct silver lining for them when the licence applications were judged.
Similarly I have grave doubts over Samuels' bailing out and the whether the move to Wrexham will work out, especially after the disappointments, to put it mildly, of their first year.
I don't though see the point in jumping on this 'see, it proved RL will never work in Wales' bandwagon, I don't see it as evidence that 'the RFL lied to us' (frankly that's up there with [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=11&t=439334this thread[/url imo) … ateotd, a rugby league club is having difficulties and deserves the same support as any other club would get (Keighley's current financial difficulties being an interesting case in counterpoint).
And yes, I do think it's hypocritical for some fans to go 'that club relying on one man's money is bad' while 'my club relying on one man's money is good'. Especially after experiencing something even worse themselves – because whatever is going wrong at Crusaders, they still haven't done anything as bad as the owners of Widnes in October 2007'"
That’s true. But can you work out why Widnes are still here and playing in a first class stadium in their own town and the Celtic Crusaders are no more, with a club called the Crusaders now 150 miles away?
When you’ve worked that one out, you understand why your comparison is just plain stupid.
Oh, and just because people are unhappy about the way the Celtic Crusaders were fast tracked, it doesn’t mean they are happy with the way it has all gone. It doesn’t mean they aren’t feeling sympathy for their South Wales fans and it doesn’t mean they aren’t concerned about the future of the sport. In fact, they are the very reasons why these fans are unhappy about the way the Celtic Crusaders were fast tracked. This is something you and Smokey just will not grasp. It all has to do with being flatcapped, swivel-eyed anti-expansionist hypocrites and nothing else, to the two of you. Until you both wake up the the fact there’s another reason for the discontent, threads like these will go on and on and on and on……
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| Quote tb="tb"What tb was actually responding to was
I'd suggest an ability to read, as well a some of these
would be a great boon.
I stand by everything I wrote – which was not, however much you froth, a comparison of the two license applications: not having been privy to their contents I'm not, unlike many on here, in a position to comment on, or compare, them.'"
Regardless of the licence decision, you compared the two clubs, as if there was no difference.
Do you really believe that?
Use the quote button in future.
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| An ability to read would show that I did not compare Crusaders and Widnes as clubs or anything else. Widnes isn't even mentioned.
use of the quote button
Quote Businessmen waving wads of cash in non-traditional areas = bad.
Businessmen waving wads of cash in traditional areas = good.
Businessman walking away from club in non-traditional area = proof that the game is and always was doomed in that area.
Businessman walking away from club in traditional area, leaving it unable to fund current playing squad and being wound up at end of year = a minor blip and nothing to get excited about, and certainly not something which should be held against the club.
I'd have thought, tbh, that those heartland fans who have seen serious threats to the survival of their own club created by the fickleness of 'rich' chairmen/ owners etc would be more sympathetic to what's being experienced by the Crusaders club – having been through it themselves.
But apparently it doesn't work like that, for some at least.'"
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| Quote tb="tb"An ability to read would show that I did not compare Crusaders and Widnes as clubs or anything else. Widnes isn't even mentioned.
use of the quote button
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So which club, that can be described as having... Quote tb="tb"Businessmen waving wads of cash in traditional areas = good.'" would that be?
Oh, and there can be a difference, by the way. It totally depends on the clubs in question.
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| Anyway, suffice to say, it's not a disgrace. Something along these lines ought to have happened 3/4 years ago and maybe the Crusaders wouldn't have been looking for a new home. If the existing football club can benefit while being of assistance to the homeless Crusaders then good luck to 'em.
That being said, the Crusaders have a hell of a job on to fullfill enough of the 10 point criteria that the RFL has laid down. If they can, then maybe RL can build a route through Wales to Southern England. Let's hope the new team in South Wales does the fans proud.
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| Quote Pepe="Pepe"So which club, that can be described as having...would that be?.'"
Warrington?
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| Quote Lefty="Lefty"Warrington?'"
Quote Lefty="Andy Gilder "Presumably that extends to ones prepared to provide "personal guarantees" as well?'"
He said he quoted this post. That sort of narrows it down a bit more than that, doesn't it? 
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| Quote tb="tb"An ability to read would show that I did not compare Crusaders and Widnes as clubs or anything else. Widnes isn't even mentioned.
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This comment from a moderator against a more than reasonable contributor to any thread on this board is pretty poor.
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| widnes should be put in SL, if only to shut up the whinging of their fans spoiling any thread not concerning them
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"widnes should be put in SL, if only to shut up the whinging of their fans spoiling any thread not concerning them'"
You should be made King of RLFANS.COM in that case.
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| Quote Trashcansinatra="Trashcansinatra"This comment from a moderator against a more than reasonable contributor to any thread on this board is pretty poor.'"
Did you not know? tb is the king of message board patronisation... He sits there rubbing his hands with glee with each demeaning comment he idly throws..
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