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All should in my opinion be scoring more tries, the right side is badly underused and so I am not surprised to see the low strike rates.'"
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| Quote LewCharnock="LewCharnock"Anyone notice that the two main "culprits" are Gleeson and Roberts, both seem to be on our right side of attack, tells a story certainly.'"
I think it tells more of a story than the oversimplification that "Roberts is crap". |
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"I think it tells more of a story than the oversimplification that "Roberts is crap".'"
To flipping right. I have grown I real dislike to the guy. I say drop him. |
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"I think it tells more of a story than the oversimplification that "Roberts is crap".'"
What was his strike rate at his previous club? |
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"What was his strike rate at his previous club?'"
A lot higher than it is with us, put it that way. |
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Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"A lot higher than it is with us, put it that way.'"
Just checked on wikipedia:
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2000–2003 St. George Illawarra 65 29 45%
2004 Penrith Panthers 23 23 100%
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Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"A lot higher than it is with us, put it that way.'"
Just checked on wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Roberts
2000–2003 St. George Illawarra 65 29 45%
2004 Penrith Panthers 23 23 100%
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"What was his strike rate at his previous club?'"
His career strike rate is 56% |
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Quote MattyB="MattyB"Just checked on wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Roberts
2000–2003 St. George Illawarra 65 29 45%
2004 Penrith Panthers 23 23 100%
2005–2008 Sydney Roosters 89 54 61%'"
I'd agree that Roberts so far has been disppointing.
But people expecting another Offiah were bound to be disgruntled. Even Offiah would struggle to score under Brian Noble, because our current style does not encourage 'flare and instinct' players.
I worry that some of this anti-Roberts feeling stems from the Ainscough business. I don't think that Roberts has been particularly better than Ainscough since he arrived at Wigan, though at least he goes up for the ball rather than watching it land in the attacking winger's arms (having said that, he usually then drops it so why bother?), but Roberts plays on the right and Ainscough on the left. Does that not make a difference? In my own playing days, I knew many three-quarters who favoured one particular side, and were nowhere near as effective on the other. If that's the case, then drawing comparisons between Ainscough and Roberts is a bit pointless. Surely we should be drawing them between Ainscough and Richards, which would be a 'no contest'. |
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Roberts
2000–2003 St. George Illawarra 65 29 45%
2004 Penrith Panthers 23 23 100%
2005–2008 Sydney Roosters 89 54 61%'"
I'd agree that Roberts so far has been disppointing.
But people expecting another Offiah were bound to be disgruntled. Even Offiah would struggle to score under Brian Noble, because our current style does not encourage 'flare and instinct' players.
I worry that some of this anti-Roberts feeling stems from the Ainscough business. I don't think that Roberts has been particularly better than Ainscough since he arrived at Wigan, though at least he goes up for the ball rather than watching it land in the attacking winger's arms (having said that, he usually then drops it so why bother?), but Roberts plays on the right and Ainscough on the left. Does that not make a difference? In my own playing days, I knew many three-quarters who favoured one particular side, and were nowhere near as effective on the other. If that's the case, then drawing comparisons between Ainscough and Roberts is a bit pointless. Surely we should be drawing them between Ainscough and Richards, which would be a 'no contest'. | |
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| Quote Bilko="Bilko"2009 Try Scoring Strike Rates
1 Shaun Ainscough 141.6%
2 Pat Richards 83.3%
3 Sam Tomkins 53.3%
4 Karl Pryce 50%
5 George Carmont 41.1%
6 Cameron Phelps 38.4%
7 Gareth Hock 35.2%
8 Harrison Hansen 33.3%
9 Darrell Goulding 33.3%
10 Phil Bailey 27.7%
11 Amos Roberts 26.3%
12 Sean O'Loughlin 25%
13 Thomas Leuluai 19%
14 Martin Gleeson 18.1%
15 Joel Tomkins 15.7%
16 Mark Riddell 10.5%
17 Tim Smith 7.1%
18 Mike McIlorum 6.6%
19 Stuart Fielden 5.2%
20 Iafeta Paleaaesina 4.7%
21 Richard Mathers 0%
22 Mark Flanagan 0%
23 Lee Mossop 0%
24 Eamon O'Carroll 0%
25 Paul Prescott 0%
26 Andy Coley 0%
Who should be doing better?
They get worked out by the way doing tries divided by appearances to give a percentage.'"
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"I'd agree that Roberts so far has been disppointing.
But people expecting another Offiah were bound to be disgruntled. Even Offiah would struggle to score under Brian Noble, because our current style does not encourage 'flare and instinct' players.
I worry that some of this anti-Roberts feeling stems from the Ainscough business. I don't think that Roberts has been particularly better than Ainscough since he arrived at Wigan, though at least he goes up for the ball rather than watching it land in the attacking winger's arms (having said that, he usually then drops it so why bother?), but Roberts plays on the right and Ainscough on the left. Does that not make a difference? In my own playing days, I knew many three-quarters who favoured one particular side, and were nowhere near as effective on the other. If that's the case, then drawing comparisons between Ainscough and Roberts is a bit pointless. Surely we should be drawing them between Ainscough and Richards, which would be a 'no contest'.'"
Why are we signing expensive wingers if we do not need them? |
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I do think that with a new caoch we may well see some of those rates improve dramatically, while others may fall slightly, but the gains will far outweight the small losses.
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| Quote odemwingie="odemwingie"Why are we signing expensive wingers if we do not need them?'"
You're asking the wrong person. But he's a Wigan player now, and I'm prepared to give him my support until such time as he categorically proves he isn't worth it.
On a not unrelated subject, he's yet another player who was very good before he came to Wigan. Perhaps that should be a bigger cause for concern. |
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