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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"I changed my post to reflect reality a touch more
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You are more wise than I thought now then
What about Tomkins and Eastmond though?
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| It's Tomkins.
Not bloody Tompkins.
Tomkins, Tomkins, Tomkins. How hard can it be to copy a name out correctly?
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| I think Tomkins was by far the better player on Friday night but Eastmond is inconsistent and he was much better against Wire than against you lot. I think he may be a confidence player whereas Tomkins doesn't give the impression of being short on confidence.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"I think Tomkins was by far the better player on Friday night but Eastmond is inconsistent and he was much better against Wire than against you lot. I think he may be a confidence player whereas Tomkins doesn't give the impression of being short on confidence.'"
Eastmond was very good against warrington but I do not think he is a confidence player. Kevin Brown is a confidence player.
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| Quote odemwingie="odemwingie"You are more wise than I thought now then
What about Tomkins and Eastmond though?'"
Both are young with lots of potential. I think Wigan fans have gone a bit overboard on how good Tomkins [icurrently[/i is, just as Saints fans have gone overboard on how good Eastmond [icurrently[/i is.
IMO Tomkins is currently benefiting from having a settled role in your team, whereas Eastmond hasn't had that as yet in ours. Both need time to settle into their roles and learn to play the game.
Oh yeah, and Tomkins is turning into a niggly little b*st*rd which, as someone said on Redvee, is good because we haven't had a Wigan player to hate since Farrell left  [size=75(though I stopped hating Farrell in 2004)[/size.
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"Both are young with lots of potential. I think Wigan fans have gone a bit overboard on how good Tomkins [icurrently[/i is, just as Saints fans have gone overboard on how good Eastmond [icurrently[/i is.
IMO Tomkins is currently benefiting from having a settled role in your team, whereas Eastmond hasn't had that as yet in ours. Both need time to settle into their roles and learn to play the game.
Oh yeah, and Tomkins is turning into a niggly little b*st*rd which, as someone said on Redvee, is good because we haven't had a Wigan player to hate since Farrell left
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Eastmond should find it easier around some of the players he plays with though, Tomkins does not have as much class around him.
I do not understand the saints players hate for Tomkins, he seems like a nice guy. He is certainly no Long, Millward or Martyn.
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| Quote odemwingie="odemwingie"Eastmond should find it easier around some of the players he plays with though, Tomkins does not have as much class around him.
I do not understand the saints players hate for Tomkins, he seems like a nice guy. He is certainly no Long, Millward or Martyn.'"
Hate comes from fear 
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| Quote Random Male="Random Male"Wasnt much between them on friday. Tompkins wasnt as good as people suggest, he was just noticed more because Wigans one and only plan consisted of giving him the ball, which is the reason wigan lacked anything in attack, because Tompkins doesnt know how to unlock a drilled defence.
Eastmond had to share playmaking duties with a number of other players so wasnt probably noticed as much, but showed his vision by nearly putting a couple of players through gaps, and nearly making breaks himself. Desperate defending from Wigan stopped these breaks.
Eastmond is rated higher by coaches and his peers and I also agree with this sentiment, that he will turn out the overall better player. Probably by some margin too.'" cant help thinking your a stains fan
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| Quote odemwingie="odemwingie"Eastmond should find it easier around some of the players he plays with though, Tomkins does not have as much class around him.'"
I agree with that, but I think Tomkins has more of a defined role within the which can make it easier for him.
Quote odemwingieI do not understand the saints players hate for Tomkins, he seems like a nice guy. He is certainly no Long, Millward or Martyn.'"
Saints players? I don't know anything about the players hating him. I'm also led to believe that Martyn is a nice guy.
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"I agree with that, but I think Tomkins has more of a defined role within the which can make it easier for him.
Saints players? I don't know anything about the players hating him. I'm also led to believe that Martyn is a nice guy.'"
Sorry I meant fans!
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| Quote wigan pie man="wigan pie man"if eastmond hadnt scored the winning try he would have been fairly anonymous.................'"
Apart from consistently finding space (especially from distance) with his kicking (something Saints have struggled to achieve for some time), being halted half a metre before the line on his way to a second try, showing excellent hands (given the conditions) taking a trio of shocking passes without knocking on, demonstrating solidity and tenacity in defence etc. etc. etc.
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